I mean, seriously - how dare you?
Do you know that the Dow fell *another* 700 points today? Do you know that it’s down some 2,000 points (almost 20%) in merely five days? I’m no statistics expert and I don’t have nearly the resources as some others do to track down relevant data, but I can only imagine that this amounts to billions of dollars in lost savings in retirement accounts, a massive increase in our national debt, thousands of foreclosures, thousands of failed small businesses, a generation of kids who won’t get to go to college, and an impact on our economy and the health of our country that won’t be fully realized for years.
And where are you both during all this? Whipping your base into a xenophobic, racist frenzy and running ads about who Obama is “palling” around with.
Barack Obama could tongue-kiss Osama Bin Laden on the steps of the Supreme Court while standing on the American flag and he’d be more presidential than either of you.
You should be ashamed.
(To my readers: I’m sorry that this has nothing to do with age - again - but I needed to get it off my chest.)
I’d be more sorry for the mental image that you conjured in my brain at the very end there. Though you are correct.
Comment by RsD — October 9, 2008 @ 5:41 pm
Thank you.
Comment by Chomps — October 9, 2008 @ 6:40 pm
You said what we were all thinking…but added a disturbing image
Comment by Ali — October 9, 2008 @ 6:42 pm
John, how many cars do you have? Wasn’t that 13. And houses, I know you forgot - 7 . Or was that the other way around. P.S. my mutual fund IRAs just went down around 20%. You betcha !
Comment by Martin R. — October 9, 2008 @ 6:43 pm
You hit the nail on the head…..
Comment by Nigel — October 9, 2008 @ 7:36 pm
I’d be disgusted, but it’s simple math:
Image of Barack frenching Bin Laden > Image of a McCain/Palin administration.
Comment by Keith — October 9, 2008 @ 7:40 pm
I first thought that was a graph of McCain’s popularity.
Comment by Aqquila — October 9, 2008 @ 7:50 pm
if i had money, i think i might get some stocks now.
Comment by pansypoo — October 9, 2008 @ 9:22 pm
He’d probably still win, too.
Comment by Robin — October 10, 2008 @ 5:11 am
Thank you.
I love you for this.
Comment by Stacy Kay — October 10, 2008 @ 10:10 am
Obama sat on a board with Ayers. Obama was outnumbered by republicans on that board btw. Obama didn’t pick Ayers, he just sat on the board with him.
Sarah sent support (including some charming video postcards) to the Alaska Independence Party. She picked them. Her husband was and still is a card carrying member. He picked them.
In the wake of the Waco raid, Gordon Liddy told his listeners to prepare for ATF agents by practicing head shots, since the ATF agents would be wearing body armor. Liddy has refused to apologize, insisting that he was being patriotic when we was explaining the best way to kill government employees.
McCain has been a guest on that show since that time, and greeted Liddy as “an old friend.”
Senator McCain, STFU and GBTW. If you have nothing to to say that can help the economy, then say so.
Governor Palin, just STFU.
Comment by Gotta get it off my chest — October 10, 2008 @ 11:29 am
palin is an insult to america.
Comment by pansypoo — October 11, 2008 @ 12:49 am
And now, the McCain campaign is apparently defending the people who called Obama a terrorist and a traitor, and who said “kill him!” at their rallies. When Obama said “It’s easy to rile up a crowd. Nothing’s easier than riling up a crowd by stoking anger and division. But that’s not what we need right now in the United States,” they responded by saying Obama was attacking their supporters, and that he doesn’t understand that “people are angry at corrupt practices in Washington and Wall Street.” They just seem to get more and more disgusting as time goes by. Here’s the story about the McCain campaign’s response to Obama’s remark:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/10/1529529.aspx#comments
Comment by Lyn — October 11, 2008 @ 2:12 am
Wow! It is good to see that hate is alive and well on the left. Accusing someone of associating with terrorists is not racist, whether they are friends or not it is not a racist issue.
As for the economy look back at the start of this almost 40 years ago and how in more recent years banks used “credit swaps” to move around bad credit. Palin or McCain had little to do with it. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd now they had a hand in it. Obama had a hand in it when as a lawyer he pressured banks to loosen regulation so that people who at the time could not get a loan would be able to (something I supported).
Check some facts, lighten up, and for the sake of America loose the hate. At the end of the day even if Barak is close friends with Ayers I know that he really has the best intentions for America. I do not agree with all of his policies.
It amazes me that war protestors can burn Bush in effegy but Sarah Palin whips her crowds into an ugly frenzy, give me a break. This little display of how much you and the 12 previous commentors HATE McCain is supposed to be pretty, reasoned, civil, you tell me. Thanks and God Bless America if either dude wins.
Hoping for Civil Discorse
Barney Garwood
Comment by Barney Garwood — October 11, 2008 @ 9:30 am
phil gram was in mcIago’s campaign. don’t be telling me the bank collapse is dodd & frank’s fault troll.
Comment by pansypoo — October 11, 2008 @ 4:10 pm
Two former ceo’s of Fanny May are are in Barak’s campain. Is that what we base this on. We can play this game all day.
As for Troll how exacatly. I bring up a few points contrary and hope that the discussion is kind and I am labled a Troll.
Look this crisis goes back decades and starts with a really good notion. Getting people into homes that were normally denied them through lending criteria. Some of that criteria seemed racially motivated. Over many years starting back in the seventies particularly Democrats pushed a loosening up of guidelines so that it was easier to get a loan. Carter pushed a lot of this. Clinton pushed this. Even Bush pushed it, and then later backed off. Personally I was happy to see this legislation. It helped more people into the American dream. The problem is that it lead to in recent years very bad loans when low intrest rates, bank credit swaps and dishonesty got involved. My point is the bloodlust that is calling for McCain and Palin on a platter is silly considering they have little to do with the crisis.
I know the hate mongering facist troll should shut up now.
Comment by Barney Garwood — October 12, 2008 @ 7:58 am
#16
Hey there, Barney,
Good to see you back!
I agree with you that there is no one party on which we can fairly pin all the blame for our current mortgage crisis. If you want to get to a granular level, I have heard sober, knowledgeable economists say that the first seeds of the banking deregulation that eventually led to our current crisis go all the way back to the Johnson administration. This mess is so large and has been brewing so long that if you were to randomly pick any American politician on the national stage between 1964 and now and you will probably find some vote or policy statement that has added to this crisis. Truth be told, at this stage assigning blame for the mess will not help us overcome it.
I believe that it is useless to rail about the “greedy” banking industry or the “evil” oil industry. Corporations are not people (I don’t care what the Supreme Court says on the matter) and as such corporations are incapable of any sort of moral decision, good or evil. And trying to get corporations to behave morally is pointless, as they are incapable if determining evil decisions from good. The people that make up a corporation can be good or evil, but the corporations themselves cannot be. All a corporation can truly sense is, “This decision makes more money than it costs,” or “This costs more money than it makes.”
This is why stable and fair economies need some sort of external regulation, to impose a moral framework on corporate decisions in the language that the corporation can understand: Good behavior gets tax rewards, bad behavior gets fined. What we see here with the banking crisis is what we have been seeing in capitalistic markets for the last 400+ years: If the corporations are left to regulate themselves, the standard quickly devolves down to “What can I get away with” rather than “What is fair and right.” It’s the same reasoning behind umpires in sports.
Back to the point at hand… Among the choices available to us here in the two major party candidates, I think the most important difference we should pay attention to is the difference of ideology about the importance of government regulation of our “free” market system. McCain, a self-proclaimed “foot soldier of the Reagan Revolution,” has stated in the past that all regulation of markets is bad no matter what circumstances. Obama believes that the banking, healthcare, energy, markets need to have more regulation to keep them fair and honest. And although there is such a thing as too much regulation, the crisis that we are suffering though right now is caused by much too little.
Vote Obama.
P.S. Something that I would like to see come out of this crisis is the idea that if a corporation ever becomes “too big to fail,” then it has become too big to exist.
Comment by Matt from Southampton — October 12, 2008 @ 8:58 am